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From:

rathercommon

[ Her lips tighten, but she asks levelly: ]

Then what's important.

From:

elegiaque

Forget it.

From:

rathercommon

[ Trying to keep the sting of anger from her voice: ]

No, apparently I was simply too ignorant to understand. So please, explain to me.

From:

elegiaque

You think I'm shallow and the only thing I care about is appearances. So what's important is that now I know that and I don't know that I should waste any further breath that you can just use to decide my opinion is whatever you like.

From:

rathercommon

[ Uhhh - ]

How'd you come to that conclusion, exactly?

From:

elegiaque

All you took from everything I said was 'image management is important'? That's what you think I'm talking about?

( most of the time, gwenaëlle really is just sort of an angry lunatic, which can make it harder to tell how unsubtly she wears her heart on her sleeve. her heart is an asshole, like the rest of her. in a way, the hurt in moments like this only underscores the general straightforwardness of the rest of her. there's very little dissembling. she just feels things, immensely. )

From:

rathercommon

[ Ugh. ]

I don't bloody know! That was about seven different speeches of five minutes each, wasn't it. Have you ever thought that maybe the problem's less that I'm not listening and more that you're saying a lot of stuff that's coming right out of your head without much attention being paid to whether or not I'll understand it? It's not always the other person's fault!

From:

elegiaque

I will make a note to say less.

From:

rathercommon

Yeah, that wasn't the point of what I was saying. So clearly you're a horrible beast who doesn't care about me.

From:

elegiaque

Glad we've cleared that up.

From:

rathercommon

Oh my God. Stop being petulant. All I'm saying is try to make a little effort to pay attention to the person you're talking to. Check to see if they'll understand it. Weren't you just talking about stories? Every story's written for an audience, isn't it?

From:

elegiaque

( it's extremely annoying when someone else has a point. )

Fine, I shouldn't have misjudged the interest of mine.

From:

rathercommon

[ Through gritted teeth: ]

I've told you a dozen times if I've told you once. If you haven't heard it by now, you're the one with no interest in me. I'm a stupid commoner, raised to be stupid, kept stupid. Deliberately. I don't talk about this and I don't know how to talk about this. I don't know how many ways I need to explain that I'm just ignorant and pathetic. All right?

From:

elegiaque

You're not either of those things. Uneducated isn't ignorant or pathetic, or stupid, it's just uneducated.

From:

rathercommon

Yeah, well, thanks, but it's still what I am.

[ Her face is not. She blinks back tears of humiliation. A little of it comes through in her voice, choked and miserable. ]

All right? So give it a sweet little name, make excuses, but at the end of the day I just can't get it.

From:

elegiaque

( after a long pause— )

I'm never going to have any time for the idea of your imaginary stupidity.

Edited Date: 2018-11-23 10:57 am (UTC)

From:

rathercommon

"Imaginary."

[ Her voice is bitter. It'd be mocking if it were less unhappy. ]

From:

elegiaque

Someone told you that you're stupid and you let them convince you that it's true. You're free to believe that, if you insist, but as long as you continue not actually being an idiot, I'm personally going to have to decline to participate.

From:

rathercommon

Yeah, except that I didn't get what you were saying, and apparently I ought to have done so much that you thought I was completely disinterested. Sounds like stupidity to me.

From:

elegiaque

( begrudgingly: )

I could have been clearer and more focused on my point. Do you still want to hear it.

Edited Date: 2018-11-23 11:08 am (UTC)

From:

rathercommon

I don't -

[ She clenches her jaw, aware that all that might have come across - probably did come across - as manipulative. So she feels ashamed. But, even so - ]

Yes. Please.

From:

elegiaque

No one wakes up in the morning and thinks to themselves, today I'm going to act against my own best interests in a way that will potentially lead to my death and the deaths of many other people.

( a beat. )

Maybe the second part, some people are cunts. But people don't—they aren't just stupid, they have reasons. Everyone has a reason for what they do, even if it's wrong, or it doesn't seem to make any sense. The important part is understanding. What people care about. What drives them. Yes, telling a story is useful, but knowing stories is better. It's more important. It's necessary to anything on a larger scale, because no one has the fucking right to just walk in and not even examine who people are and decide that they know best for them and that they're just stupid if they don't understand it. We owe understanding to anyone we want to help, or it's not different.

From:

rathercommon

[ She takes a moment. When she speaks again, her voice is a little throaty, but - better. ]

You can't know everyone's story, though. Sometimes you've got to just act.

From:

elegiaque

That doesn't mean trying to understand isn't important or worthwhile. It's more important to do when you can, for the times you haven't time to spare. No one should be getting too comfortable with the idea they're too good to need to worry about the impact they have.

And, Maker knows, understanding won't always mean you can do anything differently. Sometimes it'll only mean you know how something is going to go badly, and can plan for the mess after.