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Date: 2018-07-24 07:00 pm (UTC)But even then, you're working by their rules, aren't you. Men's rules. The rules of the powerful. If you're only claiming the power that's allotted to women - being pretty, laughing prettily, gossiping - then you're not really doing anything to dismantle the power structures that exist. You're accepting the lot that's given to you. And even a rich girl like you has got to be dissatisfied with your lot. I mean, just listen to that talk - making yourself into a weapon. Why would you ever be the weapon when you could be the warrior?
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Date: 2018-07-24 07:15 pm (UTC)The power allotted to women is a subtle one, but by improving myself, by being pretty, laughing prettily, being clever, clawing my way to the center in the ways that are provided for me, I make it more likely that I find a husband who is himself a fine blade to wield. If I am lucky and clever and pretty enough, I find myself bound to a true partner, and we are a force to be reckoned with. I bear heirs, the family prospers, and we may do such things as make sure our cities are built with well paid and well treated workers. If I am not? [ a small wry half-smile ] Then I bear the price of that failure as a swordsman might bear the price of a poorly executed block in combat.
As far as working within those rules? [ she flicks the surface of the water again. ] It is what it is. Being constantly disaffected with my place in society would bring me more pain, consternation, and sleepless nights than I am given by existing as I do. If it were else, I would perhaps attempt to circumvent them more than I do, which, I suppose, is where revolutions like yours come from. The struggle against a much larger force being less painful than enduring where the force has placed you.
[ and then, a complete digression: ] Have you scrubbed enough? The water is cooling enough that I should like to ring for the next.
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Date: 2018-07-24 07:23 pm (UTC)[ Kitty had gotten distracted. She grabs for soap and hastily scrubs herself with brisk efficiency as she goes on. ]
You're right, of course. It is much less painful to go along with everyone else. But that's what they count on, isn't it? By ensuring that stability is warm and comforting, they keep things stable. Because when things are unstable, they risk their power. They make it so that the cost of outright disobedience by clever women like you is too high so that to bring them down would be to go against your best interests, too.
[ And then, firmly - ] I'll never get married, myself. I'll never bear children, either. Marriage is a prison and parenthood's a miserable trap.
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Date: 2018-07-24 08:50 pm (UTC)Cherie, you are already married and a mother. [ she waves her hand dismissively ] Perhaps not to a man, and you've not labored to bear a babe of flesh and blood, but you are as faithful and true to your ideals as one might be a husband, and as fiercely protective of and doting on your chosen work as any parent.
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Date: 2018-07-24 08:55 pm (UTC)I mean...I suppose. I mean, I guess I do detest my cause, sometimes.
[ Anyway. She gives a little nod as she sets the soap aside. ]
Okay, I'm done. We can do new water now.
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Date: 2018-07-24 09:33 pm (UTC)What is love without a little blood, no?
[ it won't be too long before a small platoon of very clean and very efficient women are appearing to empty and remove the tubs, replacing them with high-backed oval copper ones that are summarily filled with water that steams a bit more energetically than the previous. The small tables that had held soap and sand are whisked clean and filled instead from the back table's selection of herbs, flowers, and different oils before the two women are again alone.
It's a little dizzying, to be honest, but Alexandrie looks as if everything is in perfectly normal order. She's already dipping a toe in the water and looking satisfied. ]
May I recommend the lavender?
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Date: 2018-07-24 09:44 pm (UTC)Thanks. For the recommendation.
[ She shucks the robe and slips into the water quickly and rather agilely, revealing a minimum of skin. ]
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Date: 2018-07-24 10:05 pm (UTC)Nails shall be done, but there is also the potential for a nice massage seeing as you seem to favor the more physical side of combat.
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Date: 2018-07-24 11:04 pm (UTC)[ Kitty's face plainly reveals her dismay. ]
Isn't that - rather a lot of touching?
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Date: 2018-07-24 11:17 pm (UTC)Inasmuch as having your physician visit to examine you when you are ill is a lot of touching, yes.
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Date: 2018-07-24 11:23 pm (UTC)There's a lot less of it then.
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Date: 2018-07-24 11:28 pm (UTC)[ Kitty's so tense, she just assumes there are knots.
Alexandrie pauses briefly, and then gently: ]
You are not accustomed to closeness of any variety, are you.
[ It's not actually a question. ]
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Date: 2018-07-24 11:40 pm (UTC)Of the excuses she can give, she decides that the least personal is probably the safest. So she answers: ]
This won't mean anything to you, but - I'm English. The English aren't renowned for their closeness. [ Certainly not as expressive as the French - and yes, Alexandrie is Orlesian, not French, but it really does seem to be the same thing. ]
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Date: 2018-07-25 03:27 am (UTC)Then as it should not be relaxing, it shall not occur. The water will do some of that manner of work, at least. I shall not tease you on it; after all, it is not as if I occupy a safe place from where to fling stones at those who avoid intimacies of one ilk or another.
[ She pauses a moment, and then smiles oddly, leaning back again. ]
See? I keep my promises.
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Date: 2018-07-25 01:18 pm (UTC)[ That's not hard to admit. This Alexandrie is definitely a contrast to her usual airheaded self. Thoughtful and articulate and self-aware - ]
I wish you'd always be like this.
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Date: 2018-07-25 03:16 pm (UTC)Wishes are dangerous, cherie.
[ She'd used to make them. That was before she learned that each one put a little loop inside you that could be tugged at, used to pull you about. All honest desires could be used in such a way.
The heat of the water slowly soaks and weakens the curved shell of the petal, and she watches it sink with a sort of amused wistfulness. Ah, poor thing that succumbs to both its nature and the water's.
What would she wish, if she still engaged in such folly? That there was truth in the way they touched?
Such things were not for people like them. ]
They are how we create little pretty flickers of false hope that we may someday have what we may not. Mirages, where suffering thirst, we consume sand.
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Date: 2018-07-25 03:29 pm (UTC)There is an agony involved in having an alternative. Some of the members of the Resistance, Fred, for example - they were born to such miserable poverty that they'd never had any other choice. There was no chance for a life that was anything but utterly abject. But Kitty'd had a home, and two parents, and a shot at a comfortable career as someone's secretary. It would have been easy, after Mr Pennyfeather had paid her debts, to just go back to the quiet life. Sometimes it was even tempting. But at the end of the day, the temptation was weak enough that breaking away was like snapping a string. Ladies like Alexandrie, though - they're bound to that temptation by lovely silvery bejewelled chains, though, aren't they?
Poor thing. ]
Mirages are also sometimes what keep you moving through the desert, though. [ Not that Kitty's ever been out in a desert, but - she's read adventure stories. ] Keep you going till you reach the other side.
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Date: 2018-07-25 03:42 pm (UTC)[ Alexandrie looks back over at Kitty, but she has visibly swept the brief indulgence in sorrow from herself like a maid might attend to so much dust. ]
Wishing is not needful unless that has faltered.
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Date: 2018-07-25 03:47 pm (UTC)[ Kitty looks back at Alexandrie, dark eyes watchful - but not wary or frightened as they had been before. Instead, her stare is thoughtful and intent. When Kitty had been in school, she was the absolute terror of many a teacher. ]
What's the difference between a wish and a desire to see something done? Or is it just a resolve to survive?
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Date: 2018-07-25 04:01 pm (UTC)[ here she moves to lean against the wall of the tub again, folding her arms over the side to regard Kitty with much the same look in bright blue. ]
So often, wishes and desires come first and then one musters, if one can, the resolve to accomplish them. The gulf between the desire and the resolve, if they do not match, is easily exploited. Much like a swordsman who overreaches and places himself off balance and exposed.
Abandoning the former means you are left only with the surety of what can be accomplished.
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Date: 2018-07-25 04:07 pm (UTC)[ She leans a bit further forward - ]
If you're only reaching as far as you already know you can, then you'll always be limiting yourself. Because people like you, people like me, we're told - you can't go so far. But more often than not, people underestimate us. We underestimate ourselves. Forcing ourselves forward, forcing ourselves to be courageous and to dare new things - if we do that, we can go beyond what others want for us.
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Date: 2018-07-25 04:23 pm (UTC)[ And then, just as suddenly, conversational again: ] In any case, you are wrong. It is perfectly possible to expand ones courage, daring, and capability without aiming for some far away star. It is the difference between increasing your skill with surety from pebble to stone to boulder and deciding that you shall go outside and lift a rock the size of your own body because your desire to do so shall be enough. You shall injure yourself.
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Date: 2018-07-25 04:43 pm (UTC)She's not sure if this'll help. Maybe it won't. Probably it won't. But - Of the two of them, Alexandrie has told of this painful thing in her life, while Kitty had dodged the question of her misery. So. She offers this out. ]
I'm...from a world that's a lot like Tevinter. Mages in charge. The rest of us smashed down. When I was a girl, a friend and I were playing in a park, and we got caught by a magician who - attacked us. I got away all right, but my friend, he's - He never looked the same again. And so I did what I was supposed to, I played by the rules - I sued him for what he did. And he won the case, and won it so ferociously that I got saddled with more debts than I could possibly pay off, and I'd have gone to debtor's prison if I hadn't gotten help.
Safety's an illusion. [ She shakes her head. ] It feels like things ought to work like they do in the natural world, building up your strength, daring little things and never getting hurt for it, but that isn't how it works. Everything is dangerous, always. So why not be brave?
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Date: 2018-07-25 05:11 pm (UTC)(irritation briefly flickers across her face at the way her heart responds to the bare thought of him before she gathers it all and shoves it into a box.)
The rest of the story is a sad one, and unfair, as life so often is. It was strange, how differently the two of them had responded to such things, one in each direction: Alexandrie risking less, Kitty somehow risking more. Everything is dangerous, always. So why not be brave? It's a simple enough idea, but to Alexandrie, accepting it feels the same as wishing. ]
If everything will hurt always, no matter what is done, why hurt yourself even further still in reaching for any true desire?
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Date: 2018-07-25 05:21 pm (UTC)Well - maybe because that's the way you'll help the world. Or maybe because that's the way you'll help yourself. Maybe if you're brave, and try to make change, you'll change your circumstances, too, and break free. And find joy.